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Being a Hornet sailor who owns a family, I have them to consider. Entertainment for children as well as partners must be considered in order to attract more competitors. Length of time on the water is also a consideration, as many partners may not be interested in the sailing activities. For those of us who cannot afford more than one holiday a year, efforts must be made to keep these family members happy. Perhaps we can look into the various activities in the area.

 

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Having just looked at the yacht club website, I beleive that 2006 could well be the year of the Hornets.  On a slightly differant approach I beleive that the rejuvenation of the class is held by each region individually-if each club make a real push for new and existing members (especially youths) to make it to Sandwich then the class would be lifted hugely.

Liking the sound of a dancefloor! aslong as a certain threesome will be attending next year! (Jules, Lou, Jo)

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Duncan West Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 September 2005 at 10:45

just been on the web site my self, looks good 

the address is http://www.sandwichbay.co.uk/

see you there.

Duncan

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 A personal view of the nationals with a family

Dale

A great place to sail as long as it not a nationals, should have brought the Mirror for the apres sail the lad would have loved it.

Weighing boats in was open to lots of potential criticism

Catering was excellent but was expensive for what you got, no pudding!

Good beer, traditional ales etc in the club house, and B&B in walking distance cant beat it!

Could not see the marks on the first day, apparently in use at another venue, thats bad news at a National event.

180 deg wind shift way through one race and the race officer did not can it! Again bad race management.

Lovely place for my wife and son, crabbing(5 in one go), rock pools, beaches etc excellent weather for the shore based.

Some great social evenings with my 3 yr old made very welcome, shame about his dads dancing!

How about windward leeward courses as an option, makes it more tactical rather than getting rolled on the reaches depending on the wind speed and weight in the boat.

Well done Mike Mac figging awesome sailing!

Dave Edge, can I have my junior hacksaw back please!

Well done Duncan I am sure it must have been stressful, it was an excellent week overall

Cheers

Jeremy

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It was apparent at the AGM that the most negative aspect of the week was the race management. The heavily biased startlines and the one-tack first beats all warranted restarts. However, binning a race because the wind shifted 180 degrees half way through the race, I'm not so sure. If we knew the wind was going to behave the way it did we probably wouldn't have started until 2pm each day. Based on discussions with the local sailors, I got the impression that the arrival of the 2nd sea breeze was not normally as consistant as we experienced during our week. It was very frustrating though!

On hindsight we should have cancelled the boat weighing (my personal opinion) as it became apparent very late in the day that there were some strange measurements. In our defence, the original intention was to use RYA sclales with the boat suspended underneath. Unfortunately RYA informed us that they were broken during the week leading up to our championships. The replacement scales had been used "very successfully" at the Shearwater championships, and in the past pressure pads have not caused any problems but we obviously encountered unexpected problems.

Windward/leeward? Next thing you'll be suggesting the adoption of bowsprit and a bigger sail.... Joking apart, I think if we lost the reaches for championship races I would probably stop sailing Hornets. There is nothing more satisfying than using the kite on a bumpy reach!

Thanks Duncan for a great week.

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Hi Tom

As you are probably aware I didn't make the AGM, I guess thats the difficulty of taking your family to a nationals, I didn't think it fair to my wife to disappear again having been sailing for the day.

Mud of Maldon at the beginning of this thread makes some very valid points if the class is to attract the family element, maybe we should look at what other classes do. I think there were only three people with kids at Dale.

Lets just forget about the boat weighing, slings only to be used in future!

180 deg wind shifts just make it a lottery, thats my opinion, I have sailed in other national events with the likes of Ken Falcon as race officer, he would have canned it no questions asked.

With regard to the reaches I totally agree, a reach with the kite fully powered is hard to equal, I remember Teignmouth last year the Friday was fantastic. Unfortunately what usually happens is some great luffing match with bunches of boats seeing how close to the wind they can get with the kite up! Then running to the wing mark. Or else you go low and get rolled. Maybe we should make the first downwind leg a run and the next downwind a reach.

I guess some of my frustration was down to the fact that the first beats were too short to spread the fleet at Dale. I checked the sailing instructions and there is no recommended length for the first beat, perhaps that should be considered for future events or is the race officer advised on a separate notice?

More thoughts on courses:

A windward leeward course as an option would allow the race officer to get more races in if we had lost some.

In my experience the trapezoidal course rarely works well, is difficult to set and isn't a very good option.

How about a reverse P course, I have sailed whose in Solos and they were good, in theory should be easier to set than the trapezoidal option.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Duncan West Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 September 2005 at 10:51

thanks for the coments, keep them coming.

will take all views in to account, and try to make the event family frendly, glad to hear your son had fun Jeremy (with Olly on the dance floor he should have a role modle !! LOL

on the race officer, agree not the standerd i would have expeced, or wish to have at an event. Will monerter closely for future events. you do compare our officer with the best (ken).

we have a committee meeting at Netley on the 24th September and will discuse points.

Please KEEP THEM COMING.

THE DATES FOR SANDWICH ARE SATURDAY 29TH JULY REGERSTATION,

RACING SUNDAY 30TH JULY TO FRIDAY 4TH AUGUST

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tom Guy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 September 2005 at 16:18

I would like to nominate Jeremy & Muddy as the Children's entertainment officers, All in favour?

Joking apart, I totally agree that the families (children and partners) need to have something to look forward to. To realise this we need specific ideas rather than just "something for the kids". So get your thinking caps on.

A few years ago Clare Kelleway suggested the idea of a kids' club ("the Stingers") to held within the championship week. The idea being that the kids would get together and be part of the championship. In terms of activities for them, it could be anything from bouncy castle, face painting, rounders (not extreme frisbee!!) day trip to theme park or alike (which perhaps could be subsidised by the class?).

I think one of the big problems about organising something like this is finding someone to organise it ashore, unfortunately us selfish lot are all out enjoying ourselves on the water!

So specific ideas are very welcome.....

 

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  Speaking on courses, in my expeirience the best courses are set by the Merlin Rockets.  They have the start line at about a third up the beat from the lee-ward mark, this means that you go straight through the gate as soon as you round the mark.  Once you have done so, you then have the entire beat to play with-rather then just half.

  Another idea the merlins have is a fancy dress night-based on the name of your boat!  This is very popular and is a right laugh if everyone does it. 

  Still thinking about the family aspect.....

  Jeremy, did you find Thunderbird 1?

Olly

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Olly

Found at Dale,  now lost in Stourbridge Kids eh!

Jeremy

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