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    Posted: 26 January 2005 at 20:37

Actually I'm not a paid up member of the Hornet Association - I sail a Merlin Rocket!!!

However, on behalf of Tim Coombe and the Starcross YC Hornet fleet, please could you post an invitation to your members for the Starcross Steamer pursuit race on the 6th March 2005, start at 13:00.  For further details see Http:\\www.starcrossyachtclub.co.uk or tel (01626) 333865

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David Lee

 

 

 

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Thanks David, I'll post it now

Tom

 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pippa Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 March 2005 at 21:39
It would be handy if the website told you it's the same username/password as for accesssing the fastsail forum. Surely I'm not the only one who's tried to register for the hornets only to find my username of choice already in use... by me!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tom Guy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 March 2005 at 15:00

Hi Pippa,

Not sure why you had this problem. When we changed to the new look website, I was automatically logged in as per before. i.e. it was seamless.

No doubt Barry will be able to explain the operation of Cookies and all which might explain why it went wrong for you.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote westie4566 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 April 2005 at 10:44

As a keen sailor of symmetric class boats I'm extremely surprised at your associations decision to limit the use of your forum to members only.

I'm here today as a friend has just aquired H1628 which - as an experienced restorer of boats - I've been asked to help with. I - wrongly - thought 'I'll hit the Hornet website for pics and tips' - but find myself thwarted.

In the current climate of mass produced asymmetric classes gaining a stronglehold on the dinghy sailing market, we sailors of traditional symmetric classes should be doing our utmost to promote our associations....and taking this members only stance seems a daft way of doing it??

 

One only has to look at the website/forums of the Merlin Rocket and Solo Associations to see how helpful and welcoming they are. Surely it's no coincidence that both classes are experiencing a revival.

 

Hopefully your committee see the wisdom in making your Class and website more welcoming to prospective  Hornet sailors?

 

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Andy

 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Harry Ashworth Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 April 2005 at 18:27
I agree, and the recent site revamp has made the photos disappear. "for sale" is now hidden, and there is no "FAQ" or similar ( Baz please note)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Alex Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 April 2005 at 13:37
For Sale / Wanted is under the notice board bit
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tom Guy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 April 2005 at 23:50

Andy (and all visitors),

 

Thank you for comments and advice regarding the site, these have been very much taken on board.

The main reason why you cannot directly obtain any information regarding hints and tips is that the website has recently been revamped. Despite our best intentions (and we are much smaller classes than either the Solo or Merlin Rocket, so lack the numbers and resources to progress this quickly), we have not been able to add the new content. Why don’t we use the original information (FAQ’s, etc)? One of the reasons we changed was because we were aware (and through our forum so were our members!!) That dated information is probably worse than no information. We will endeavour to complete this as soon as possible.

 

The forum is slightly different. It has always been our intention to have 3 levels of access to the website: Committee, members, and non-members. We made a very conscious decision to limit access to non-members because we felt that some of the information was not for general consumption. For example, following championships there are certain comments that are probably best kept out of a public forum! Also I have visited a number of class websites where the internal politics are there for all to see, and quite frankly, it does them no favours.

We do recognise that there is a balance, which needs to be achieved. The website and its contents are seen by some as a reflection of the state of the class (some might say this is a sad reflection of the times as none of us started sailing in a class because of the image was good….)

But, I accept that we have not paid enough attention to the development of the visitors’ requirements. As a direct result some of the discussions will move to the public forum.

Additionally, your comments remind us that the forum (not just the website) is a valuable promotional tool. 

 

Now back to your original reason for posting on the forum: Assistance on H1628.

 

H is for Holland. Unfortunately the latest sail number for our Dutch fleet is H172. So I assume that this should be K1628.

 

K 1628 was originally registered in 1970 as Miss Stress.

 

Now we hit reality (or a problem). Even if we were to update all the information (old or planned) under Hints and Tips, it is highly unlikely that we could cover the information necessary for what is a very old boat. In fact, the information we have is for boats from 1979 onwards. Only 9 years but the difference is considerable. 

 

On the more positive side, there are a number of members who have been with the class from the start who may be able to help. There is also a growing interest in the classic Hornets (there have been many rule changes) which again will be reflected on the non-members website. 

 

Could you provide any more information about this boat, its current state and to what level you want to restore it. Based on this, I’m sure we can get some feedback.

 

Tom Guy

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote westie4566 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 April 2005 at 11:19

 

 

Well  - it seems my perceived apathy and disinterest of the Hornet Class was well founded.

 

Having read the reply by Tom Guy I was slightly disheartened by the fact that he seemed to deem my boat (yes K1628 as landed in my posession) worthless as she's a 'very, old boat'! Mmm - let's see now...my 33 yr old Solo compete's very well after an 8 month rebuild. She's down to weight and although maybe slighly different in hull profile to the 'modern' Solo's is still up on the pace and sails great on handicap! Which is JUST what I wanted to do with the Hornet!!!

 

Right now I have a totally stripped grp hull that's been dry stored for about 15 yrs and in perfect condition, plus all the epoxy and timber raring to go - but NO-one will help by giving me any photo's of old or current Hornets to give me a shove in the right direction. Surely even  a 'very old' Hornet - if built down to weight - is worth saving????

 

I'm now guessing the the Hornet Class Association doesn't think so....so looks like K1628 will be cut up and your class loses another boat. This makes me very sad!

 

I refer back to my earlier post about the thriving Merlin Rocket association which gives great encouragement to ANY MR owner, regardless of the age of their boat or whether or not they're members of the class association. Perhaps they have the wisdom to realise  that, should an owner start of with an old boat and like it,  AND be made feel welcome to the class that there's evey chance that they will become association members, buy newer boats and become active promoters of the class. 

 

 

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Hi

We re-fitted/semi restored 2161 but it will be quite a bit different, we have three Hornets at the club so I am willing to take pics for you.

If you email me at [email protected]

Ill send you some pics, or you can come and look at our boat, we are in Birmingham

Cheers

Jeremy

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